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(Evil) Concupicence

Three Wishes: Grace Mercy Peace.

When looking at the news, noticing how many priests have been exposed by whistle blowers who got abused and molested by such like, it should bring the biblical term "concupiscence" to mind, and explain how such priests got ensnared by their own law of such childish law law.

In Romans 7 & 8:2 Paul speaks of two laws. And many deceived by many erroneously take the 2nd law as gospel. And perhaps such is gospel, but only "this gospel" of this/that gospels, which produces sorrows. Some even call such "the law of love" (love thy neighbor as thyself), which they perceive the be all and end all: Not!

For love not perfected still fails many, but "charity" never faileth any. They do sow not knowing (forgive them, for they "know not" what they do) that "another law" of such law law gives place to the 1st, like the two beasts in Rev 13, and then all hell breaks loosed, and "law worketh wrath", as it did via the tsunami of Dec 2004, which was a big WAVE from LAW worketh wrath: Romans 4:15. Hello!

So, such like (such law law folk) are exhorted to "recover themselves" (2Tim 2:26) out of the "snare" of devilish law <=> law; Recover with "grace" rather than being sow dog gone law law as to cover themselves with a 2nd law of law law in the 2nd place of a 3rd place which is the best of three (good better best) things:
1. Children of flesh: law => law
2. Children of God: law <= law
3. Be no more children (tossed to & fro)

For in Romans 7 Paul explains "another law" only produces all manner of "concupiscence", which he later calls "evil concupiscence", also notes it makes a "wretched man" kind instead of "perfect man" kind.

Forbidding law creates in many unaware of the curse of the law in good "old" Do-teronomy & Don't-eronomy an overwhelming (evil: law) desire (a "lust", which is notably only by knowledge of the law, which puffeth up rather than edifieth)... ungovernorable lust to do the very things forbidden by law. Limited law also hinders the Do-teronomy things. Such is followed by law accusation and condemnation for doing or not doing such like; Which is why JC said, concerning children: forbid (law) them not.

For law is not only the source of sin imputation, which brings forth death; But also the strength of sin: 1Cor 15:56, the "strong man" of the hse of sin which we are to first bind to spoil the hse of sin & death, lest it spoil you instead.

Sadly many internet ministries such as Tentmaker.org still go with the 2nd law of such law law, thinking such 2nd law makes people free of the 1st law, sin and death thereof; when it only gives place, power(gospel), and authority to the 1st law to worketh wrath, and the deadly "no escape" sort in 1Thes 5:3; Which is why Paul says, concerning "escape" from wrath and via deliverance from law, we should give more earnest heed to what's been said: Hebrews 2.

For the 2nd law of Rom 8:2 law law no more voids the 1st law of such law law than the law of aerodynamics forever voids the law of gravity. It may over ride such for a limited time, like airplanes run out of gas sooner or later, the law of gravity kicks back in, and they come down, some full of people come crashing down.

Sadly many deceived by many have not considered the 2nd law of Rom 8:2 is about life in "Christ Jesus": the reverse of "Jesus Christ". And although Paul The Apostle speaks of both in his epistles, he also clarifies the only foundation we should build anything on is JC. He also clarifies he is an apostle of JC, opens and closes every epistle with JC, which is his way of clarifying such things are not only an allegory, but also mystery to be solved, and "in time" since there is neither mystery nor time for such in eternity.

The "grace" of our Lord "Jesus Christ" with you all. Amen.

Re: (Evil) Concupicence

Grace unto you, and peace,
from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

News Examples of (evil) "concupiscence" (of law):

DIOCESE TO SELL CHURCHES TO PAY ABUSE VICTIMS. A Roman Catholic diocese in Newfoundland plans to sell its churches, parish buildings and land to raise money to compensate people who were sexually abused by a priest. STORY:
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/05/09/nfld-church-050509.html

RETIRED PRIEST TO SERVE 1½ YEARS FOR MOLESTING ALTAR BOYS. A retired Catholic priest, extradited from Canada, has pleaded guilty to sexual abuse in Massachusetts and sentenced to 1½ years in prison. STORY:
http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2005/05/11/PriestGuilty_050511.html

More details on (evil) "concupiscence" at:
http://www.godshew.org/Concupiscence.htm and
http://www.godshew.org/ShewBread5.htm#evilc

The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.

Re: (Evil) Concupicence

Another news example of (evil) concupiscence, witch ensnared even a graduate of an 'Ivy League Univeristy' in USA with "another law" of such Romans 8:2 law law; and thereby made such a "wretched" man who could not restrain himself from raping and killing 8 women:

CONNECTICUT EXECUTES MAN WHO KILLED 8 WOMEN. State officials in Connecticut have executed a man who murdered eight women, then had to fight for the right to be put to death for his crimes. FULL STORY:
http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2005/05/13/death-penalty050513.html

Sadly, many folk in North American Christendom are victims of a 'second' law of Romans 8:2 law law: "the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus"; Unaware "Christ Jesus" is mirrorly the reverse of "Jesus Christ", as "Dog" is the reverse of "God" in "which things are an allegory": Gal 4:24; And a "dog" notably returns to his own vomit: law, as noted in 2Pet 2:20-22, and his latter end "worse".

JC notes in Mt 22: 38,39 that a "second" (law): "love thy neighbor as thyself" is "like the first" (law), and it "fulfills the law": a "ministration of death". And such is only "great" of great greater greatest, kinda like Babylon the "great" is notably twice fallen bwd to "great" <= greater <= greatest.

On the contrary "charity never faileth" is notably the "greatest" of "three" things, as if twice risen fwd to great => greater => "greatest". Charity is above and beyond both great and greater law law.

So also, as JC notes in Mt 22, the "second" law of Romans 7 & 8:2 law law is "like the first" law of such law law; And it no more makes anyone truly free of sin and death (sin consciousness, dead end of a deadly "sting" of sin, witch law also the "strength" of: 1Cor 15:56), like the "strong man" of the hse of sin JC said to bind in order to spoil the hse of sin, lest it spoil you instead. The second law no makes anyone free of sin, death thereof, than a law of aerodynamics voids a law of gravity for long. Sooner or later those flying high on such a titanic law law fellow ship of fools, saying things like 'love never fails' (instead of "charity never faileth"), also "Peace and safety" (safety in law of Grace and law), and doing sow via a second law of such law law; Well sooner or later they come crashing down when the 2nd of such law law gives place to the 1st of such law law, like the two beasts of Revelation 13.

Paul The Apostle notes in Romans 7 that "another law" only produces all manner of (evil) concupiscence, and makes a "wretched" man rather than a "perfect" man like Christ of Jesus Christ: the end of the law for righteousness, thereby the perfect sort of lover.

Folks, both laws of such law law can get law <=> law, toss unaware "children" (even "children of God" of two sorts of children in Mt 13 & Rom 9) "to and fro": law => law & law <= law. For the childish merry go round of law <=> law goes both ways of broad and narrow ways if those taking the narrow way (which only "leadeth unto life") do not give more earnest heed to what's been said and "go on to perfection" of a third way: a "more excellent way" than the narrow way, also called the "new and living way": Charity, which "never faileth" because it's the "greatest" of "three" things, and notably above such law law of children who do not put away childish things: laws; Even above "forgiving one another" via another law, witch hinders such forgive one another, or else (see PS to Lord's Prayer) to the point it becomes a mission impossible. Then the first law of law law kicks in, condemns them for breach of law; and such law worketh wrath, notably the "no escape" sort of destruction in 1Thess 5:3, and notably upon "them" who said "Peace and safety", safety in their law of such Grace and law, because it's the 2nd and better of two laws in Rom 8:2 witch promised them freedom from sin and death of the 1st. Safety in law? Not!

So the exhortation higher than being children of God in Rom 9 and children of the kingdom in Mt 13, of two sorts of "children", is "be no more children":

1. Children of flesh (children of the wicked)
2. Children of God (children of the kingdom)
3. Be no more children: Ephesians 4

1. Law of sin and death
2. Law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus
3. Ye are not under the law, but under grace: Gal 4

Paul also notes those who "will" (and perhaps via "willing ignorance") live godly in "Christ Jesus" shall suffer persecution: 2Timothy. So folks, let us all put away our childish things: laws, and stop the suffering, by stop being sow dog gone law law. And notably the latest Harvard survey notes there is more of such law law (mental instability, bi-polar dis-order) among both those diagnosed and undiagnosed in the United States than in any other nation; the leader thereof being as if more the "child" of hell(law) than other hypocrites, fools, vipers, and blind guides who sat in Moses' seat: law (Mt 23). Selah Americah.

The "grace" of our Lord "Jesus Christ" with you all. Amen.

Daniel Miles
www.godshew.org