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Re: Ways "law" = "ministration of death"

The POINT is: as long as the law is given place,
it will continue being the ministration of death;
Especially to them who say Peace & safety in law.

Only by abolition of law is there life eternal.
Until then, grace + law is as life + death = dead end.

So the end to endure unto to be saved(graced),
notably has no mention of law(death) whatsoever.

The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all.
Amen.

Re: Ways "law" = "ministration of death"

36 yr old killed by a police bullet while riding his bike to work (he worked to save life at a hospital): Full Story: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2011/06/08/montreal-police-shooting.html

Re: Ways "law" = "ministration of death"

IPODS AND THUNDERSTORMS DON'T MIX: Doctors are warning about the risks of personal stereo equipment after a Vancouver man listening to an iPod was zapped by lightning while jogging in a thunderstorm:
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2007/07/11/ipod-lightening.html

Re: Ways "law" = "ministration of death"

Why are you associating natural disasters as the "ministration of death" by "law"?

Re: Re: Ways "law" = "ministration of death"

Grace (not law) unto you, and peace (not division),
from God our Father and the Lord Jesus-->Christ.

Law is both natural and spiritual. It's both natural disaster and spiritual abuse, abusive to the point of being not only the ministration of condemnation, but also the ministration of death. The Bible asks and answers: Howbeit Afterward, if law is allowed to be spiritual of natural/spiritual, natural first, spiritual afterward? Answer: latter end "worse", such as "more the child of hell", such as "seven other spirits more wicked" returning with cast out law.
http://www.godshew.org/Allegory3.htm
http://www.godshew.org/Revelations9.htm

Law is "both good and evil", which notably ends "evil"; Such as "evil concupiscence" makes ppl feel "wretched" after it suckers them into "another law" having seven names:
http://www.godshew.org/AnotherLaw.htm
http://www.godshew.org/Concupiscence.htm

Law is both holy and unholy(2Tim3),
so we're told "from such turn away".

Law: don't try to Mend it, End it!
Christ is the END of the law: Romans 10:4.
He is our peace who hath abolished the law: Eph 2.

The GRACE(ONLY) of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.

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Why are you associating natural disasters as the "ministration of death" by "law"?

Re: Ways "law" = "ministration of death"

BUS PLUNGE OFF MOUNTAIN ROAD KILLS 24 IN FRANCE.
A bus carrying Polish pilgrims from a holy site in the French Alps plunged off a steep mountain road, crashed into a river bed and burst into flames, killing 24 people:
http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2007/07/22/france-bus.html

Re: Ways "law" = "ministration of death"

I have to admit that even though everything said is sad, I laughed very hard and long. Law the cause of all of that. It's a side spiltter that gets better as you go. Good job! I had many days added to my life if laughter adds time as they say.

Re: Re: Ways "law" = "ministration of death"

Tim,

Grace unto you, and peace,
from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

I would you had eternal life, not just more days.

Have you considered "last days"(plural) is past,
if two last days are as two millenniums: 2Pet3:8;
And it's now the "last day"(singular) of the shew,
And the last day isn't millennial as many suppose,
since no mention of evening & morning on 7th day?

Repeating Law is Law Law.
His Grace is NOT Law Law.

The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.

Re: Ways "law" = "ministration of death"

Tornados in Iowa hit a Boy Scout Camp: kill 4 and injure 40, as destructive law worketh wrath destroyed all the buildings they (93 boys, 25 staff) were in. The buildings are all gone, and many trees are gone.
http://www.startribune.com/nation/19807464.html?location_refer=Most%20Emailed:Vikings

Re: Ways "law" = "ministration of death"

I am a singledad that raised four children alone for fourteen years with no family no friends and NO MONEY
i went to church sure i did and all i got was judgement and condemnation
LAW LAW LAW
i went looking for people that BELIEVED the bible and got caught up with mennonites the appeared to love the lord and his word but in three years
they convinced two of my daughters to leave
because i was NOT A CHRISTIAN ACCORDING TO THEM
they were pharisees you cant be a christian and get angry you cant be a christian and have radio
or singing with musical intruments
YOU HAVE TO WEAR A COVERING IF YOUR A WOMAN
and the list went on and on and on

I find in the word of god a pharisee
and a sinner and the sinner prayed GOD HAVE MERCY ON ME A SINNER and he went HOME JUSTIFIED

WE HAVE PEACE WITH GOD not because of the law
NOT BECAUSE OF THE RIGHTEOUS THINGS WE HAVE DONE
but because of what OUR GOD JESUS CHRIST DID FOR US ON THE CROSS
HE TOOK OUR PUNISHMENT death was in power from adam till christ
but from christ on IT WAS FOR FREEDOM SAKE THAT CHRIST HAS MADE US FREE

I am a sinner I dated and slept with woman i was not married to I was alone and lonely
I did things in my life i am ashamed of and not proud of
but JESUS FORGAVE ME AT THE CROSS

TWAS GRACE THAT TAUGHT MY HEART TO FEAR
TWAS GRACE MY FEARS RELIEVED

I am fourty two this year and have NO FAMILY
no friends and will never attend a lying judgemental
selfish system of so called church again
we are lIVING IN SECOND TIMOTHY chapter three
and this is canada
I have no car heat with wood and have a market garden
so for all those that think you have to be good in order for god to love you
YOU WILL NEVER BE GOOD ENOUGH
NEVER NEVER NEVER
we are saved by grace through christ
that loved us and died for us
that we may have the GIFT OF ETERNAL LIFE
YOU CANT LOSE YOUR SALVATION it was NEVER YOURS TO GET IN THE FIRST PLACE
ITS A GIFT and NO matter what YOU have done in your life
BELIEVE IN JESUS HE LOVES YOU
BELIEVE IN HIS SAVING GRACE
and when you know he loves you
YOU WILL LEARN TO LOVE HIM ITS A PROCESS

i hate being single I hate being poor
I hate churches and rich liars that say they love god whom they cant see but dont love their brothers of flesh whom they can see

GOD IS COMING BACK JESUS IS GOING TO RETURN
and when he does the rich will be turned away empty
and those UNDER THE LAW OF MOSES JESUS WILL SAY TO THEM DEPART FROM ME YOU WHO WORK INIQUITY
LAW BREAKERS THAT ARE LAW MAKERS FOR EVERYONE ELSE
BUT THEMSELVES

the apostles NEVER commanded to keep the law of moses and be circumsized THEY SAID TO REPENT
and believe the GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST
WHO IS OUR GOD eternal father and KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS
Robert Hillman
ontario canada

Re: Re: Ways "law" = "ministration of death"

Dear Robert Hillman,

Grace(not law) unto you, and peace(not hatred),
from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Sorry to hear of your add-verse add-ventures,
but perhaps you brought such upon yourself,
by having partiality & Romans 2:1-ing yourself
and perhaps you even still require mediation,
since you're not yet in agreement with God.
God has no partiality whatsover,
and will have mercy, not sacrifice.

For you still notably 'hate' things, and
still believe in vengeance, by a vengeful God
which is via the "unjust judge", not just judge.
So then, Hear what the unjust judge saith:
he'll take vengence on you, for your Rom 2:1,
and your Mt 6:15 unforgiveness = unforgiven.

If you can't rise above thinking evil & forgiving,
(charity thinketh no evil is put on above forgiving)
and you also won't forgive all men all things,
then you're not you forgiven either: Mt 6:15, and
can expect a visit from the tormentors: Mt 18:35,
for having a humpty dumbty fall: Gal 3:1... 5:4.

May your law dogs be much less hounding,
when your grace gets much more abounding,
till only grace mercy peace enter your heart.

Converted Peter:
Be more grace us, grow (up) in grace,
and thereby multiply only mercy & peace.
For born again is of incorruptible seed: grace,
not of corruptible seed: law... it leavens grace,
and thereby it lessens mercy, and negates peace.

Take the advice of James 2:1
have not the faith of our Lord JC with partiality.

The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.

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Replying to:

I am a singledad that raised four children alone for fourteen years with no family no friends and NO MONEY
i went to church sure i did and all i got was judgement and condemnation
LAW LAW LAW
i went looking for people that BELIEVED the bible and got caught up with mennonites the appeared to love the lord and his word but in three years
they convinced two of my daughters to leave
because i was NOT A CHRISTIAN ACCORDING TO THEM
they were pharisees you cant be a christian and get angry you cant be a christian and have radio
or singing with musical intruments
YOU HAVE TO WEAR A COVERING IF YOUR A WOMAN
and the list went on and on and on

I find in the word of god a pharisee
and a sinner and the sinner prayed GOD HAVE MERCY ON ME A SINNER and he went HOME JUSTIFIED

WE HAVE PEACE WITH GOD not because of the law
NOT BECAUSE OF THE RIGHTEOUS THINGS WE HAVE DONE
but because of what OUR GOD JESUS CHRIST DID FOR US ON THE CROSS
HE TOOK OUR PUNISHMENT death was in power from adam till christ
but from christ on IT WAS FOR FREEDOM SAKE THAT CHRIST HAS MADE US FREE

I am a sinner I dated and slept with woman i was not married to I was alone and lonely
I did things in my life i am ashamed of and not proud of
but JESUS FORGAVE ME AT THE CROSS

TWAS GRACE THAT TAUGHT MY HEART TO FEAR
TWAS GRACE MY FEARS RELIEVED

I am fourty two this year and have NO FAMILY
no friends and will never attend a lying judgemental
selfish system of so called church again
we are lIVING IN SECOND TIMOTHY chapter three
and this is canada
I have no car heat with wood and have a market garden
so for all those that think you have to be good in order for god to love you
YOU WILL NEVER BE GOOD ENOUGH
NEVER NEVER NEVER
we are saved by grace through christ
that loved us and died for us
that we may have the GIFT OF ETERNAL LIFE
YOU CANT LOSE YOUR SALVATION it was NEVER YOURS TO GET IN THE FIRST PLACE
ITS A GIFT and NO matter what YOU have done in your life
BELIEVE IN JESUS HE LOVES YOU
BELIEVE IN HIS SAVING GRACE
and when you know he loves you
YOU WILL LEARN TO LOVE HIM ITS A PROCESS

i hate being single I hate being poor
I hate churches and rich liars that say they love god whom they cant see but dont love their brothers of flesh whom they can see

GOD IS COMING BACK JESUS IS GOING TO RETURN
and when he does the rich will be turned away empty
and those UNDER THE LAW OF MOSES JESUS WILL SAY TO THEM DEPART FROM ME YOU WHO WORK INIQUITY
LAW BREAKERS THAT ARE LAW MAKERS FOR EVERYONE ELSE
BUT THEMSELVES

the apostles NEVER commanded to keep the law of moses and be circumsized THEY SAID TO REPENT
and believe the GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST
WHO IS OUR GOD eternal father and KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS
Robert Hillman
ontario canada

Re: Ways "law" = "ministration of death"

There are millions of ways law can be a ministration of death to those who don't flush law as dung; And such includes another law: love thy neighbor, which Paul thought was unto life, but found it unto death.

Here are some more:

- golfer struck dead by lightning
- man found dead 150 feet from car after snowstorm
- 300,000/yr die of wrong medication in us hospitals
- main cause of death in america is going to doctor
- after earthquake killed many, cholera killed more
- man sailed to paradise only to get shot by pirates

When will people learn law = ministration of death?

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