Daniel;
Let us learn about grace. Webster's New World Dictionary defines grace as;
GRACE: 1: An attractive quality. 2: A delay granted beyond a set date for the performance or payment of an obligation.
Theology definition of grace: 1: Unmerited love and favor of “God”, toward man. 2: Divine INFLUENCE in a man to MAKE him pure and good. Have doubts about theological grace. I do know about real grace..
I've experienced real grace for seven decades. I have been granted extra time to complete contracts, make payment and deliver goods many times by compassionate people. That's grace. I can also testify for unmerited love and favor of people toward people. Real love and favor comes from real, living, compassionate human beings only. That is good.
No need to declare: “That's really “God” working through men”. WRONG!! Definition plainly states: OF “God” toward man. Not “God” through man toward man. When love and favor toward man does not occur.....That indicates there is no source!!

When murderers, rapist and thieves are arrested and imprisoned, they are provided clothing, medical treatment, food, warm and cool rooms with entertainment, clean beds, warm covers, free dental care, all of it free. Preachers visit and pray for them. Maybe that's theological grace.
Good and righteous people think theological grace will protect them, But evil men rob, rape and murder them. Religion teaches. “turn the other cheek! Walk the extra mile. Pray for those who persecute them. Give them also your cloak”! Thieves, rapist and murderers know their innocent victims do not qualify for theological grace. When murderers and rapist are arrested, they qualify for theological grace. To hell with the victim.
The victims of those atrocities, suffer terribly for that which they did not ask. They have lost loved ones, lost property, were terrorized, humiliated and traumatized. (Could have used a little theological grace)!!! Innocent children are malled to death by dogs! Earthquakes, mudslides, floods, tornadoes and blizzards, bury innocent people alive, scatter their battered bodies, freeze children and drown hundreds every day. (NO love or favor for those people)!!!! THEOLOGICAL GRACE IS INSUFFICIENT!! Seems only criminals, rapist, murderers and depraved reprobates qualify for theological grace.
However I know for certain, those in need, will receive real love and real favor from real people, in a real world... PERIOD!!
May the grace be with you!

Thanks Iam Thatiam, yet perhaps your 7 decades of experience is not [yet] the 8th in Ephesians 4:4-6 KJV, which first lists 7 one's, then "and Father" = 8th, also notably "above" = 'epi' the 7 still in earthy mode or even in 'ano' above, of two kinds of "above" in Colossians 3: 'ano' & epi'.

Eph 4:4-6 KJV:
[There is] one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who [is] above all, and through all, and in you all.

Daniel: Correct! When counting or measuring, eight does follow seven..
Let us learn about numbers;
EIGHT is nothing more than a number. Symbolically, EIGHT is an imaginary, magical realm used to classify natural phenomena as “miracles”! In Theological terms, EIGHT is a magical step or “level” above the natural order of “things”. EIGHT is suggestive of an imaginary dimension used to conjure omens hoping to verify myths. EIGHT is symbolic of a new beginning. A confused Bible scholar wrote, “the first day of the week is really the EIGHTH day”!!! Please don't laugh.. He is serious.
Numbers are important to superstitious people. Numbers are really, really important to Theologists and Allegorists. FORTY according to theology, is a period that tests the integrity of a person or idea. FORTY days and nights of rain.. FORTY years in a wilderness. FORTY days and nights Moses fasted. FORTY days and nights Jesus fasted. There were THREE days in a tomb. THREE days in a whale's belly. There are THREE points to a triangle (-:that's where Satan lurks:-).... THREE is used 467 times in the Bible!! There were TWELVE tribes. TWELVE disciples. Don't overlook the number 666!!! SEVEN is a popular number. SEVEN days in a week, SEVEN days to create. SEVEN years of famine. SEVEN deadly sins.
Merging the occult with religion is indicative of the source from which religion originated. It's comical to observe “educated” men using numbers in an attempt to validate an imaginary Deity of their own creation. Some even attempt to foretell the future.... with numbers!! Numbers are useful for counting and measuring real things. TWO sermons. SEVEN preachers. THREE cubits.
May the numbers be with you......