Grace(4UQEG)unto you, and peace, from God our father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

"Matthew 12:33 doesn't say pick one of two trees; But does say "either make the tree good and his fruit good, or else make the tree corrupt and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit".

Does this explain why "the woman" told the serpent...

GEN 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.?

instead of...

GEN 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

nor did she say...

GEN 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is on the one side in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

"The woman" makes it sound like there was ONLY ONE TREE "in the midst" of the garden.

The grace(4UQEG)of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

Marshall

Marshall,

Grace unto you, and peace,
from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

On this topic I find it interesting Jesus called his mother "Woman" twice in John, and neither time was a compliment. For 1Timothy 2:14 says "the woman being deceived was in the transgression"; And Romans 4:15 says "where no law, there no transgression". So it's like saying she was in the f-law.

Genesis 2:9 says: "...the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil".

Genesis 2:15 says: "And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die".

Genesis 3:1-3 says: "Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which [is] in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die".

It seems the woman was confused about several things.

The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ [be] with you all. Amen.

Grace, Charity, and Peace from God our Father, and The Lord Jesus Christ,

It is interesting to note that even before the woman has partaken of the forbidden fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, the woman has already breached (broken) the Law (via sin "consciousness").

That is to say, even before the very (physical) act of the woman partaking of the forbidden fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, the woman has already breached such a law "mentally" (i.e., the woman has already breached the Law within her '"mind"), seemingly "confusing" her in the process, resulting in her "deception."


But I would ALL thank God that "... the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: (Romans 5:20 KJV)

The (Eterna) Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you All. Amen.

ewashington,

Grace unto you, and peace,
from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Indeed, interesting aspects to this topic.

1Timothy 2:13-15 notes "Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety".

Romans 4:15 notes "where no law is, [there is] no transgression".

So, for the woman to be in the transgression (because of deception) there has to be a law to transgress; For 1John 3:4 notes "sin is the transgression of the law". So there had to be a law, long before the 10 in stone at Mt Sinai, and long before the 613 in ink in the Torah.

John 1:17 says: "the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ". Galatians 3:19 seems to note all other law was "added", and "because of transgressions".

When studied out, the law "given by Moses" seems to be the tree law in Genesis 2:17, which seems to be "the law" (singular) which Christ abolished in Ephesians 2:15, which is called "the law of (plural) commandments". When studied out Gen 2:16 vs 17 seem to be plural and contrary "commandments": every tree vs not every tree; which is allegorically grace vs law. So if mingled, Gen 2:16+17 make an oxymoron. So Christ refused "mingled" drink, and twice, as if from both sides of the cross.

So when the tree law in Gen 2:17 is abolished, then there is no transgression possible, also no condemnation, and no need to add more laws because of transgressions.

I hope that made some sense. I encourage people to study it out for themselves, in order to be persuaded how there is therefore now no condemnation, as noted in Rom 8:1.

The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ [be] with you all. Amen.