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Re: free will vs slave will

Marshall,

Grace unto you, and peace,
from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Indeed, and thank you for sharing that.
Yet I would clarify the topic even more.

Eg: your subject line says free will vs slave will.
But as I see it, if vs, it should be slave vs free;
So if only 2D mode: left/right, free should be right.
Yet in 3D mode: under/above, free is above a servant.

Bible Example: in "servant" mode, there's two kinds:
"servants of sin" -vs- "servants of righteousness", so
in L/R mode, "servants of righteousness" are "better".
It's is as saying in law vs grace mode, grace is better.
But better mode of plural God isn't yet best, nor rest.
For grace of law vs grace is still division, not peace;
And grace of law vs grace still partiality, not perfect.
So we "go on unto perfection" by "leaving" law vs grace.
For pure grace isn't "over against", but "with you all".
When it comes to "God is one", it's not one of L/R twain;
But rather it's one above twain: neither of two servants.
For as John 15:15 clarifies: servants = kNOW NOTS; And
as Gal 4 clarifies: child differs nothing from servant,
so Gal 4:7 says: thou art no more a servant, but a son.
Phil 1:16 says: not now a servant, but above a servant.
For a prodigal son wanted to be the better of servants,
but a merciful father accepted him as son, not servant;
as a son who was lost (dead), but is now found (alive).
Details: http://www.godshew.org/AboveAServant.htm

So let's not be servants kNOW NOT, but friends kNOW;
As "know the truth" is above "believe [it] not" x2.
Since believers x2 tend to believe erroneous things.

Many are duped into a choice of death1 or death2,
via the choice of resurrection1 or resurrection2;
And R of such L/R is "better" of twain in 2D mode.
But Hebrews 6 says leave resurrection of the dead,
for "he is not God of the dead, but of the living":
thrice noted in Mt 22:32; Mk 12:27; and Lk 20:38.
So to "lay hold on eternal life" we leave both L/R,
and to go on unto what's best of 3 is neither of 2.
As it's twice said: "let the dead bury their dead".
Details: http://www.godshew.org/Best.htm

Example: in "children" mode, there's two kinds:
"children of the wicked" -vs- "children of God";
But being "children of God" is not a compliment,
for when the term is used, it's of "ye" do err,
even if gone from Mt Sinai to Mt Sion is better;
speaks a better thing (forgive) than Abel (avenge).
For Mt Sion still has "stumbling block" laid in it.
So I made a page called 'be no more children chat',
as "be not children" & "be no more children" is x2.
Jesus = head of children x2. Christ = head of man x1.
So put away childish things includes put away Jesus.
Eg: http://www.godshew.org/GodShew.htm#nomorechildren

So then, free will isn't "over against" slave will,
but rather it's above and beyond both slave vs free,
which isn't free vs slave, as your subject line said.
Not saying you're wrong, per se, just 'more to learn';
And by "leaving" better of 2D mode for best of 3D mode.
For only the greatest of three things "never faileth";
And only when charity of these 3: faith, hope, charity,
is put on "above" forgiving, as noted in Col 3: 12-15;
so also notice 2 kinds of above in Col 3: 'ano' & 'epi'.

When it comes to "liberty", there's 7 NT kinds of it;
And Timothy "set at liberty", in Heb 13, is 'apoluo'.

Pt: all talk of decease should cease to have true peace.
Anything less: free of slave -vs- free, can be a do over.
Above twain is oneness having no mention of f-law at all.
So the end isn't grace1 of grace1/grace2,
not under of under/above, but above only;
Which has no left/right sides to even take.
So "Christ" sitteth "above": in hall of fame,
where "Jesus" sat "down": R in hall of shame.

The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.

Daniel

Re: free will vs slave will

Grace(4UQEG) to you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

You're "right", actually ABOVE being "right"(of left/right). I should have not have made that in 2D, but rather, in 3D. Perhaps this might have been a little better:


ABOVE left and right is:
FREE WILL


(L)SLAVE WILL 1 vs SLAVE WILL 2 (R)

(L)"my will, not thy will be done" = "slave will 1" = "good"
(R)"thy will,not my will be done" = "slave will 2" = "better"
(ABOVE) "only one will" = "free will" = "best"

Only one will as in "my will" and "thy will" are fused/co-joined/married into one will as in "we all are one"

Also, I forgot to add the final clause to my original statement.
I therefore would like to rephrase that as:

"Where there is death, and the threat of death, there is no free will, but only slave will, which is the fear of death. And where there is only life, and only the promise of life, there is only free will, and no slave will at all, which is the love of life."

The popular belief is that unless we are able to break/disobey/unfulfill God's law, then we are denied "free will" as then we have the so-called "free choice" to "obey God" or "disobey God" as in:

"Do-teronomy what I tell you or you will die!"
or
"Don't-eronomy what I tell you not to do or you will die!"

Yeah, like that really offers us a "free choice" as in

"Behave yourself or you go to bed without your supper!"

In Conversations With God, the "God voice" declares that his true laws CANNOT BE VIOLATED. How ironic is that, that:

1...man-made laws that can be violated deny "free choice", but
2...God's true laws that cannot be violated affirm true free choice.

Go figure!

The grace(4UQEG)of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

Re: free will vs slave will

Marshall,

Grace, and Mercy, and Peace unto you,
from God, our Father, and our Lord JC.

Thank you for sharing AND clarifying.
Hey, I was just thinking of you today,
and voila, there you are on the forum.

What if we leave 2D's free will choice of dead1/dead2,
as God on high's choice's = peril-them/peril-us: 2Tim3;
To go on to 3D's free will choice of dead1/dead2/alive,
as higher God is one's choice only best of three things.

Isn't that what Hebrews 6 is allegory saying,
by saying first leave resurrection of dead x2
to go on unto no dead at all to even resurrect.

All talk of decease should cease to have true peace.
For he is not the God of the dead, but of the living,
thrice noted in Matthew 22:32; Mark 12:27; Luke 20:38.

Hence the Lord is longsuffering to us-ward
so that none perish by grace void of f-law,
instead of all perish by add f-law to grace.
It's as saying none perish by life void of death,
instead of all perish by adding death unto e-life.

To be continued, for even more clarity if required; Such as "the God of the living" in Mt 22:32; Mk 12:27; Lk 20:28 is not "the living God" in Heb 10:31; Since it is both fearful and a fall to fall from the God of the living (aka higher than the heavens) to the living God (aka heavens on high). So Heb 10:31 is allegory saying it's fearful to fall from alive (higher)to a free will choice of dead1/dead2 (on high)... perhaps the reason for "be not highminded" being mentioned twice, if it's as twice dead.

So in Heb 4:12 it says the word of God: grace: is sharper than any two-edged sword; Which is like allegory saying alive is neither of dead1/dead2, or higher is neither of high1/high2.

The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.