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He Forgave Us All Our Sins!

Grace unto you, and peace, from God our Father and The Lord Jesus Christ.


1 Colossians 1:13-14 (KJV) - "And you being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;"


The Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

Re: He Forgave Us All Our Sins!

Grace unto you, and peace,
from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Indeed, in the lower (non eternal) realm of law imputed sin and forgiveness of sin by His grace, you are Godly forgiven ALL trespasses for Christ's sake (Ephesians 4:32), and it's done by the blotting out (abolition) of law which imputes sin (trespass).

However, when we give more earnest heed to Colossians 2:13-14 (KJV), we find the term "hath he" is not he hath. Hath he is allegorically a question, not a statement. So there's also a higher level of the allegoric "mystery" to consider than being forgiven.

For in the "higher" (eternal) realm of pure grace there is no sin imputed to even forgive, because in a pure grace realm of eternity there is no law to impute any sin. So it is also written that a (new) "high" priest (Jesus) had to go even "higher" to become "us" ... "harmless" ... "higher than the heavens" (Hebrews 7:26). Such is the realm of he hath, instead of hath he, mirrorly speaking.

In the same manner we are to put on "charity never fails" (1Corinthians 13) ABOVE "forgiving one another" (Colossians 3) by putting away law imputed sin to forgive. For charity (pure grace) "thinketh no evil" to even forgive.

In the same manner true God (above) thinketh no evil to forgive; For that God sees only good = grace, not both good and evil = law. That God is light (grace), and in him there is no darkness (law) at all. So reconciliation done in Christ (is the end of the law) is unto that God: 2Corinthians 5:19, who does not impute sin to them; no sin to even forgive.

So Hebrews 6 speaks of "leaving the principles" of the (non eternal) lower realm in order to "go on" unto the perfection of the higher (eternal) realm. In the higher realm of pure grace there is no evil to forgive, because there is no law to impute any sin.

It's kinda like "with" grace is higher than "under" grace. We are all "under grace" now, but the higher objective is to get our heart established "with" grace (Heb 13), the pure grace of eternal God above. With pure grace there is no sin imputed to forgive, which is how a graceful parent loves a child.

That is how we lay hold on eternal life of eternal salvation, which is how we become "incorruptible". Forgiveness "under grace" is still corruptible in the non eteranl twain realm of law/grace, as exampled by the Galatians in Galatians 5:4.

The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.

Re: He Forgave Us All Our Sins!

Grace unto you, and peace, from God our Father and The Lord Jesus Christ.

Allegorically, "hath he"? I am not following your train of thought.

On the one hand, the KJV's rendering of Colossians 2:13 places the archaic third person singular present form of have "hath" in front of the third person singular pronoun "he.


On the other hand, The Greek's (i.e., Stephanus' Textus Receptus) rendering of Colossians 2:13 places the aforementioned words in the reverse order: - "καὶ ὑμᾶς νεκροὺς ὄντας ἐν τοῖς παραπτώμασιν καὶ τῇ ἀκροβυστίᾳ τῆς σαρκὸς ὑμῶν συνεζωποίησεν σὺν αὐτῷ χαρισάμενος ἡμῖν πάντα τὰ παραπτώματα"




The Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you (all).

Re: He Forgave Us All Our Sins!

Grace unto you, and peace,
from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

What I'm trying to get at is 'the third' heaven is above and beyond two non eternal (twain) "heavens"; as "eternal" is above and beyond non eternal things: Pure grace above and beyond the grace of law/grace. For grace of law/grace is still division, not peace; And only pure grace is "incorruptible", for in the realm of law/grace there's potential for corruptible law to corrupt grace (example: Galatians), because this grace is still in a twain realm of part-iality, not oneness. Neither "part" of any sides war is perfect; So when perfect-ion comes, then part-iality is done away. Which is to say God's grace is neither of law/grace; For God's grace is not twain, nor over against anyone, nor partial to some. Rather God's grace is "with" you all.

One has to leave: let go of: the twain "principles" of law/grace to go on unto perfection: pure grace, a third realm of oneness that is neither of twain things, not one of twain, but one "only". Eg: "A mediator is not of one (God), but God is one": Galatians 3.

Such is like being exhorted to go up higher, after one has already been edified up (not puffed up) to what's right of left/right things on high, and stood firm in what's right of this twain realm. Above such twain is oneness, perfection, wholeness, allness.

Perhaps, to help you understand what I'm getting at: the oneness of God "higher than the heavens" is not the twain of left/right heavens on high, let us consider the third aspect of three things as being what's best for all, not just better for some.

3. Greatest: only greatest of 3 things never fails.
2. Greater: can also be "greater damnation".
1. Great: can be "great terror" of Moses' law.

3. Best: is what's best for "all", not some.
2. Better: is better for some, not for all.
1. Good: law is good, but both good and evil.

3. Above and Beyond the twain of Zion/Sion
2. Sion... is not Zion (Grace is not Law)
1. Zion... is not Sion (Law is not Grace)

3. More Excellent Way: neither broad nor narrow
2. Narrow Way: better of 2 ways 'leads' to life
1. Broad Way: leads many to destruction

3. Charity: thinketh no evil: never fails
2. Hope: of twain, NT has a "better hope"
1. Faith: starts out with trusting law

3. Best of 3 things ... "eternal" life
2. Better of 2 things... non eternal
1. Good of 1 thing... non eternal

So, to lay hold on "eternal life", we let go of non eternal life + death, which is to say we let go of grace + law to go on unto pure grace never has law.

It's a spiritual concept that is spiritually discerned only when one stops wavering between eternal and non eternal. There is only eternal grace above. Eternal grace has no beginning nor end.

The (eternal) grace of our Lord JC with you all. Amen.