Thank you for the reply. Please understand I do know what you think and why you think it. I knew from the beginning. You have to understand I know who Paul is and why he wrote what he wrote. I also know he never saw or spoke to Jesus once. Neither in the flesh or in the spirit. Please know that I know this for a fact. A fact that can not change. I do not suppose that I could ever change your mind and that was never my intent. My intent was for you to say what you really believe about Jesus. People had to know this to avoid your deception of saying you believe in Jesus. If my time here shows only one person who might of fell for you, instead sees your false teaching for what they are and that you really do not believe in Jesus, then my time was well spent. I know I have a greater understanding of how to defeat your teaching now and that you have a greater respect for people now and how to treat and speak to them. So that is something good that came out of this. I am sure the true apostles and James the Just loved Paul as a human being, even though they despised his words, deeds and teachings. Peter even showed him respect as Paul was his enemy. Your reply to my post is total and utter non-sense. You again put Paul above Jesus and his hand-picked apostles He lived with and taught. You make Him out to be a retard that could not get things right the first time and had to come back for the mighty Paul to save the world. Do you forget Jesus said He must leave to send the Holy Spirit to teach us all things? Does that mean coming back in person to teach Paul in the "desert" in person? Come on Danny. Do you want to know how I knew what you thought before you said it? Jesus and His true apostles told us what you would believe and teach. It is the same teaching wrapped in a different paper that the evil one spoke from the beginning. Do you really think you could ever fool me? I rebuke your teacher in the name of Yeshua, the one and only true teacher. I believe His words and not the lies of Paul and his followers. You deny the Spirit of Father came in the flesh. You say its just a story for our learning. Well Danny, that story foretold of people like you would come teaching that and dening Yeshua came in the flesh. He and John said these people would be antichrists. You follow the original antichrist, so naturally what they said is true. I do not apologize for saying this. It is just sad to say it because you are a human being just like all of us who was suppost to live forever. I do believe you were taught in the spirit as you say on your site. It was the same spirit who taught Paul. You are such a bright and taughtful man. What could have happened to make you fall for these lies and deception? Why do you want to be a wondering star reserved for judgement? To believe what you believe you have to say Jesus never really existed in the flesh. In whom do you put your faith, hope and trust in then? Is it Paul. An admitted murder and liar from the beginning? Father will forgive all if asked with a pure and repentant heart, but He would never use a past murder as His great teaching apostle. I know that and you know that. Why will you not admit it and turn to the true and might Father in Heaven and Yeshau? Do you know the Jesus Paul teaches is a fairytale? Of course you do because Paul believed in the same made up Pagan Jesus that the evil one convinced him existed. Yeshua said His true law would never pass away. Paul said it did. It is the same old test Father gave us in the beginning. Will you believe Me or someone else. Why do you believe someone else? Adam had the same choice. The men of old had the same test, follow My commandments or follow the pagan laws of sacrifice and bloodshed given by the wicked priests. Guess who they chose. We are now given the same test as believers. Do we follow Jesus who spoke the words of Father or do we follow Paul who spoke the lies and deceptions of the evil one. That is why we are here. We are here to love and follow Father just because we want too. This proves the evil one was wrong. Father wins (as if there was ever any doubt about it). Why do you chose the side of the loser, who lost and was lost from the beginning? Can you not learn from that example? Why do you refuse to love your Creator and follow Him? You were born with him, why did you turn from Him unto the evil one? Deep down in your soul you know Paul can't be telling the truth if the words of Jesus are real and true. So you refuse to believe in Jesus and His words. Do you not know that His words give life? What is Paul and his father going to give you? They will give you nothing my friend! They give nothing because all they can do is take. They will take life Father wants so badly to give you. Why will you not take it? Why do you refuse it? Why do you teach other to refuse it? Why is maybe the question we will never know. Why do you think I bother still talking to you? It is not why you think. Do you really think all will be saved? Do you really think the law and sin do not exist anymore? Do you really believe Jesus never walked the earth as flesh? I believe you would answer yes to all of these. I believe you have been suckered by the best in the business. Who is it that would deceive the whole world and even the elect apostles of Yeshau if possible. Think really hard Danny. After you think really hard, you can only have one answer. The answer would be Paul and his teachings. Who else is it Danny? Is it Simon Magus, Jesus, the 12 apostles, the pope, or maybe Krusty the Klown? No Danny. You know who it is and you still choose to follow him. How can there be forgivness for that? There will not be Danny. You were forced to chose between the words of Yeshua and the words of Paul because you know and admit they cannot both be true. Why did you choose Paul? Why did your choose death? Why do you like being a wondering star? Why not do the one simple thing Yeshua said, repent, follow Me and keep my commandments and law if you love Me. Why don't you love Him instead of Paul? I am quite sure if you could go back in time and meet Paul you would lay a big one to know what he was really like. How could you look Yeshua in the eye, face to face, and say you love Paul and not Him? What would you say to Him Danny? What would you say? Go right now and look into a mirror and tell Him what you would say to Him. He died as a human to defeat the evil one and give you a chance at life. There is no greater love than that Danny. Why will you not love Him back? How can you forsake such a chance? For a murder, deciever and liar? Do you really think Paul would love you that much? Love does not proceed out of a heart of a murder Danny. What will you tell Yeshua when He asks you, Why did you not love me back? What will you say Danny? What will you say? What ever you say, He might say....If you loved me, you would have kept my commandments and told others to do the same. What will you say Danny? What will you say? What if Yeshua was real Danny? What a gift you threw away Danny. And for who......Paul?