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Re: Bottom of Terror Barrel: Source of it all is law.

Dear Tuxedo Bob(alias AC Paul, Timothy),

Grace unto you, and peace,
from God our Father and the Lord JC.

You may wanna check out the threat about the Father in Matthew 18:35, which is the same as the threat in the PS to the Lord's Prayer in Matthew 6:15. Law pity, thought to be compassion and forgiveness can be followed by wroth and tormentors if you don't forgive all men their trespasses after you're forgiven your trespasses. Do you know all men, or what their trespasses are? How do any trespass unless there is law to trespass? What if they were unaware of such law? Are they still guilty? What of blasphemy the Ghost that is unpardonable? How do you forgive this? What of the curse of the law? If you don't forgive, or can't reverse the curse, then neither do you get forgiveness, but wroth and tormentors. What a dilemna.

Let us have an end of good and evil law; For by the using of laws all perish, since law is a mission impossible to keep it all, all the time, to a thousand generations. This condition of law has already been breached, by the woman in the beginning. So how do you propose to change this, other than by abolition of law? It's the only way any, thereby all, can be truly forgiven.

The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.

Re: Bottom of Terror Barrel: Source of it all is law.

Danny,
If you are unaware of a law and break it, you will not be found guilty. Remember Jesus said that if you "see", your sin remains, but if you are blind, you are not guilty. The Pharisees saw and were guilty. I'm not sure what threat you are talking about? Why would Jesus expect you to forgive tresspasses you don't know about...enough with knocking down the strawman! Your point is invalad per common sense. Why would people need to forgive blasphemy the Holy Spirit? Father would need to do that, which He states He will not. The unpardonable sin is a lifetime of stopping you ears to the Holy Spirit until it departs from you never to return. Father gives that person what he wants. Eternal seperation from Father by the nothingness of death in lieu of life with Father. What is wrong with this. It is fair, merciful, and just. Sorry, you have an invalad point again. You can't keep the Law of Father without sin. No one has. All you can do is try your best and love your neighbor as yourself. This is all He wants and will forgive the rest. Do you have a problem with that? Again, your point is invalad. You say abolition of law is the only way to be forgiven. You might want to run that by Jesus. It is made clear that those who promise liberty by abolition of law only place people back under the chains of sin by breaking the law and not asking for forgiveness. It is just the same old lie by Satan from the beginning. It never has, nor never will fool me. It is really so last season. Again, why do you do the work of the evil one by teaching this? It really is sad. Anyway, until your next oddly untrue statements to deceive,
Timothy Tuxedo,
P.S>
If you want the actual quotes, I will give them as usual. Just ask.

Re: Bottom of Terror Barrel: Source of it all is law.

Dear ACPaul/TuxedoBob/TuxedoTim,

Grace unto you, and peace,
from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Grace has no law to obey or disobey, and thereby no Rom 2 anguish to deal with, but rather peace (rest).

Perhaps that is why James 3 notes firstly pure wisdom from above (Grace unto you from God our Father) is thereby also firstly peaceable of 7 things grace is.

The problem with your law conviction and pardon is some sin is unpardonable, namely blasphemy the Ghost (speaking against the Law). Not to mention law confession of sin leaves you with the dilemna of bloodshed sacrifice for law imputed sin does not purge all sins, but almost all, leaving you with an unpurged conscience, an evil conscience still subject to evil concupiscence of law and feeling wretched thereby, as Paul did until he flushed all law as dung. In the same manner those who law judge, thinking to accuse others and excuse themselves by law, are not excused by law, but "inexcusable" and subject to the consequences: indignation, wrath, tribulation, and anguish spoken of in Romans 2.

Love thy neighbor is a law (Mt 22), to put away.
Ye are not under law, but under grace: Rom x2.
If led of the Spirit ye are not under law: Gal.

Try and fail is fail-u-are. Charity never fails.
If you try and fail to keep all law, condemned.
As you aptly note, nobody can keep all the law.
So the way to never fail is abolish all the law.

Law is imperfect. Grace is perfect. Be ye perfect.
Law accuses, condemns, and oft wrongfully convicts.
Grace doesn't accuse, or condemn, or con-vict any.
Law isn't merciful. Grace is merciful. Be ye merciful.

Comparing law to grace, law has "no glory" by comparison to grace so excelleth in glory the law fades to nothing but sounding brass by comparison.

Forgiveness is for know nots, them who know not if they don't forgive all men all trespasses they will not get forgiveness from the Father of Jesus: Law.

Charity thinketh no evil to even forgive.
Charity is put on above forgiving one another.

Scriptures were written aforetime for our learning.
I do not teach, but rather share what I've learned.
It is preposterous order to teach first, learn after.

The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.

Re: Bottom of Terror Barrel: Source of it all is law.

Danny
Thank you for informing us that Love thy neighbor is a law (Mt 22), to put away. It's only the 2nd greatest commandment given by Jesus. Oh, that right, you do not believe in a literal Jesus. Just when I think you have stated the most foolish statement, you raise the bar to the next level of non-sense. Remember the dark mist Paul said fell upon his followers? Wonder where the dark (evil) mist spirit came from? As the church lady on SNL would have said, Ummmmmm, maybe SATAN!
Good day and Good luck Mr. Miles. You still crack me up with your total non-sense.
Until your next oddly untrue statment.
The many named wonder. I wonder how many?

Re: Bottom of Terror Barrel: Source of it all is law.

Tuxedo Bob,

Grace unto you, and peace,
from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Indeed, Love thy neighbor is a "law" to put away, notably "the second is like unto the first" in Mt 22: 36-40 law law; And the first of Rom 8:2 law law is sin and death. Not to mention Rom 8 law vs law is divided against itself.

Let's look at America, which according to it's leader is 'a nation under law', and his 'rule of law' he promised to make global at his second coming. How well does it love it's neighbor Cuba, or it's own people? America has the most violence of all nations, also the most violent weather. Like the Roman Empire it is deteriorating from within.

As for Jesus Christ, the only commandment he gave was "new": "Love one another as I have loved you": John 13:34; 15:12. Paul gives more clarity about the end of the commandment, namely "you" in which the KofG resides, being "charity" out of a pure heart, and a good conscience, and faith unfeigned.

The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.

Re: Bottom of Terror Barrel: Source of it all is law.

Well wake up the cat and pour the coffee! I think you finally see the true Law of Father. It is love your Creator with all your heart and love one another. Danny, this is the true Law of Father. Do it or die. Seem harsh? Hardly! Follow this Law and you follow Father, do not follow this Law and you reject Him and die (eternally). Get the sick Law of the scribes and Preist out of your mind. It was man made as Jeremiah plainly stated. Jesus brought no "new" Law. Jesus brought back the true Law that was pushed aside and forgotten for their new sick twisted pagan sacfrice laws. Jeremiah said that Father never wanted or commanded these things. How could he say it more plainly. Paul is dead wrong. The true Law does exists and you do sin if you break it. You still need to repent of breaking the true Law or die. Teaching others that you can not sin anymore is plain twisted sickness that kills. Please, let's stop being murders of people and teach the true and first Law of Father. The ten commandments were made for people with stone hearts, the true Law of Father is written in our hearts from before the foundation of the world. We stay with Father or leave Him and die. He gives us that choice. Nothing can make me sicker than preacherman spewing out sinners will be in twisted hell torture fire forever. If we choose not to follow Father, He let us rest in peace (death) at the end, which is love and mercy, for the person has chose this path. Paul wants to confuse the path for people who really want to follow Father. Stop helping him do so. Father is His true Law and nobody will be with Father who does not choose to follow His true Law. Enjoy your true sabbath of rest today (not to be confused with worship).
Peace.

Re: Bottom of Terror Barrel: Source of it all is law.

Dear Bobby, Timmy, whatever your name is,

Grace(not law) unto you, and peace(not division),
from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Christ abolished the surely die lie: Eph 2.
Christ is the end of the law: Romans 10:4.
Reconciling the world is done "in Christ",
by NOT law imputing sin to them: 2Cor 5:19.

The other sort, of two reconciled(s), is to death;
as noted in the two Roman 5 mentions of reconciled.

The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.

Re: Bottom of Terror Barrel: Source of it all is law.

Dear Danny, Godshew, whatever you call yourself,
Law (not deception) unto you, Jesus (not Paul the antichrist)from my Father in Heaven and Yeshua.

Jesus said "If you love me, keep my commandments".
Jesus said "The Law will never pass away".
Jesus brought the original law back to us.
Jesus said "endure until the end and you shall be saved".
The other sorted quotes noted by you leads only to death eternal as stated by Father in Heaven.

The True Law of our Creator be with you all. Amen.

Re: Bottom of Terror Barrel: Source of it all is law.

Grace & Peace,

Indeed, endure unto the end to be saved(graced):

The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.