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Re: Two Quotes, One Liar. Will you not believe Jesus?

Yes I do see. Jesus picked idots while on earth and had to come back and make things right with Paul...NOT! I see you wrote a bunch of nothing again. Why don't you just come on out and call Jesus a liar and you believe Paul instead. Just do it and I will leave you alone. Tell everyone what you think. Come on Daniel Ted Miles. Tell everyone Paul is your one and only god and you worship his words and not Jesus. Because afterall, you did say Jesus cursed everyone by handing on a tree. We have the two quotes and both can not be correct. You say Paul is right, so naturally you call Jesus a liar. Am I wrong? Do I misunderstand? Please give detailed answer. Oh that's right, you just write BS instead. Good-Bye Danny. You will never answer the real questions Jesus words pose to you. You just run behind you god Pauline the sissy boy murderer. Wonder why he hated women so much? Go read your history and find out. BTW - make sure you tell all the women you know to shut there mouths and not speak in church. That's what your sissy boy Paul said. Then go look at all the dumb ass excuses preachers make for him saying that. It's rib splitting fun. I have a joke for you. What's the differnece between Paul and a donkey's ass?......nothin'

Re: Re: Two Quotes, One Liar. Will you not believe Jesus?

Your both wrong and its painful to see "believers?" fighting foolishly over the scripture that is God breathe, all scripture is truth, if only one word were not then it would be all false. GOD gave the law to Moses, Moses did not create it. We need that law to tell us what sin is if you did not know what sin was then how you could keep from it. Jesus did not some to destroy the law (Matthew 5:17"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.)
Paul NEVER refutes the word in any of his letters.
Please do not try to use clips of scripture as truth, for if you remove it that is when you get into the realm of manipulation to the word, thus forming your own ideas to go with your own agenda. So please read all of Romans 7 and any other scripture that you have used to get your point across, and maybe then God will reveal truth unto your eyes. JESUS IS NOT DEAD, HE HAS RISIN

Matthew 5

17"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.

Romans 7

1Do you not know, brothers—for I am speaking to men who know the law—that the law has authority over a man only as long as he lives? 2For example, by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law of marriage. 3So then, if she marries another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is released from that law and is not an adulteress, even though she marries another man.
4So, my brothers, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit to God. 5For when we were controlled by the sinful nature, the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in our bodies, so that we bore fruit for death. 6But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

Struggling With Sin
7What shall we say, then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! Indeed I would not have known what sin was except through the law. For I would not have known what coveting really was if the law had not said, "Do not covet." 8But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, produced in me every kind of covetous desire. For apart from law, sin is dead. 9Once I was alive apart from law; but when the commandment came, sin sprang to life and I died. 10I found that the very commandment that was intended to bring life actually brought death.
11For sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, deceived me, and through the commandment put me to death. 12So then, the law is holy, and the commandment is holy, righteous and good. 13Did that which is good, then, become death to me? By no means! But in order that sin might be recognized as sin, it produced death in me through what was good, so that through the commandment sin might become utterly sinful.

14We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. 20Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.

21So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22For in my inner being I delight in God's law; 23but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. 24What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? 25Thanks be to God—through Jesus Christ our Lord!
So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God's law, but in the sinful nature a slave to the law of sin.

Re: Two Quotes, One Liar. Will you not believe Jesus?

Dear AC,

Grace & Peace to YOU from God & Son Unlimited.

Selection of 12 apostles, and from many disciples, is significant. It not only shows partiality, but it's thought by some they were all twins.

When looking closer the 12 were as a hung jury. They could never agree on anything. James and John moved "the ten" to "indigantion". Peter denied him thrice, and did it twice. As for Judas, it says he "also betrayed him", indicating others did too; Not to mention "a little leaven leavens the whole" 12. Taking 3 up to the mount of transfiguration also showed partiality, which is not good nor Godly, as is noted oft from 2Chronicles to 1Peter.

So, neither the old 12 nor the new 12 were unleavened; And that is why when 120, who thought themselves better, selected Mathias to replace Judas, God chose Saul to become Paul: his witness unto all men, to shew us the "more excellent way" is neither broad nor narrow, but above and beyond both such, as Christ is "above" law vs law, and "seated" (not "standing" as Jesus in Acts 7:55). That is why Stephen, among the seven selected by the new twelve, got cast out and stoned to death. For Psalms clearly says "sit", not stand. And Saul of Saul-->Paul knew that, having being taught the law by Gamiliel at Jersualem, and become not only an Hebrew of Hebrews, but the most zealous of the Pharisees for law... til it blinded him enroute to Damascus.

Much like even Peter of Simon-->Peter is called Satan to told to get converted, it's not just a simple matter of Saul-->Paul; For even "Paul" felt wretched via another law, prior to flushing all law as dung and becoming Converted Paul The Apostle: his witness unto all men, that God our Saviour will have all men saved(graced) and all men aware what they're saved(delivered) from: the law. So in both cases, of Peter and Paul it's:

Law --> Another Law --> Grace void of Law
Simon --> Peter(Satan) --> Converted Peter
Saul --> Paul(Wretched) --> Converted Paul

But we know from Peter's writings he got converted by reading Paul's epistles; So Paul got converted first.

The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.

Re: Two Quotes, One Liar. Will you not believe Jesus?

You just wrote:

"Taking 3 up to the mount of transfiguration also showed partiality, which is not good nor Godly,..."

So now Jesus is unfair and ungodly? I could say that someone is a no good peice of horse dung, but that would be giving them to much credit! I will just say someone is insane. I think after that remark you just made about Jesus, I will just flush someone's every worthless ass thought down the toilet like dung. You really are a waste of human flesh.

Re: Two Quotes, One Liar. Will you not believe Jesus?

Dear AC,

Grace unto you, and peace,
from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

So then, you find partiality ok if Jesus does it?
I find, it's not good nor Godly: 2Chron...1Peter.
In fact, there's no partiality with Law or Grace.
By Law: all perish, none live.
Br Grace: all live, none perish.
Longsuffering to us-ward is no none perish.

The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.

Re: Two Quotes, One Liar. Will you not believe Jesus?

Mr. Miles,
Really. Go stick your nose up Paul's rear end where it belongs. You do not follow Jesus. You do not know who Jesus is. Stop signing out by using His name. That is taking the name of the Lord in vain. Oh! that's right. I forget that you can not sin. So sorry!

Re: Two Quotes, One Liar. Will you not believe Jesus?

The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.

Re: Re: Two Quotes, One Liar. Will you not believe Jesus?

Grace and Peace be unto ALL. No Exceptions!

Most interesting exchange.

On the one hand, the gift of LOVE, LIFE, and, LIBERTY, is shared openly and freely. This is clearly noticeable in no accusations and in no recognition of the assigned condemnation that is carried forth through law via the venue of religion. ALL religions. No exceptions!

(Scary for those bound by law, to the law, for the law. For what one hath bound self on earth to, one hath also bound thy self in heaven.)

While on the other hand, a clear demonstration of what religion has produced played its, "curse your God and die," taunting games. (Childishness, but understandable given the context of the world the child has given itself over too)

I appreciate the distinction in this thread of this forum, for it has clearly defined who's hope is within the context of LOVE, LIFE, and LIBERTY. And, who's hopelessness is within the context of the religious realm of Death, Decay, and Destruction.

Well said Christ-Daniel: Miles
Well done Christ-Daniel: Miles


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