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Re: If it smells stanky...............

Tim,

Grace unto you, and peace,
from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Tim, what's inspired of God is clearly noted in 2Timothy 3:16, which many think says scriptures;
but what it says is "scripture", not scriptures.
You see, plural and contrary scriptures are plural,
and they are also contrary, having contradictions.
Any reason-able person reading the Bible should note it has lots of contradictions, says "contrary" things;
Which is even noted in Galatians 5:17 "For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are CONTRARY the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

So then, we have to sort out such contrary things:
- Two Gods: Law and Grace
- Two Gospels: this gospel and that gospel
- Two Spirits: spirit of error and spirit of truth
- Two Testaments: Old Testament and New Testament
- Two Wisdoms: earthy wisdom and heavenly wisdom

I did such for you, in Twain Shew of God Shew:
http://www.godshew.org/TwainShew.htm
If you have things to add to it, let me know.

So then, plural scriptures are not inspired of God;
For this vs that combined would make God bi-polar,
which is dis-order.

God is not [the author] of confusion, but of peace.
Contrary things cannot co-exist, no, not in peace.
So then we have to flush one of twain to have peace.
Eg: Christ abolished the law to be our peace: Eph 2.

Yet, even when we get the twain sorted out,
there's still the third part to consider,
for great vs greater is still a fail-u-are,
and only greatest of 3 things never faileth: 1Cor13.

So then, the script-u-are that's inspired of God,
is not even the greater of such great vs greater,
but the greatest of (great-->greater)-->greatest.

Tim, you're still seeing a sides war of law vs grace,
but as I said: Grace neither makes nor takes sides;
For sides wars have side effects, like a dead end.
So the sides war you're seeing is yer Law vs Law;
Which I've plainly told you is as Loser vs Loser.
http://www.godshew.org/Romans8.html

Tim, think for a moment, and realize this:
Even Law vs Grace gives place to the Law;
Which is as giving place to Sin & Death.
So even Law vs Grace is as a Blame Game,
which inducts players in hall of shame.
The hall of fame is "above" all sides wars.

Above a servant is neither of 2 servants.
http://www.godshew.org/AboveAServant.htm

Charity is "above" forgiving one another.
http://www.godshew.org/Charity5.htm

Tim, there is no law in the God of all grace;
And there's no discomfort in the God of all comfort.
Where you get your law from is Moses surely die lie,
as is from the God on high in plural divided heavens.
True God is higher in heaven: higher than the heavens.

Tim, prophets are servants(slaves), know nots,
who differ nothing from the know not chidren,
who err, and require continuous forgiveness.
Hence: "be no more children". "Grow in grace".
And so also Revelation is to shew the prophets,
what adding law to grace is sufficient does,
as if a "worse" case scenario to a void.

Tim, if you believe in law, you believe a lie.
Law (and lie) was given by Moses, but
grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.(Jn 1:17)
You're still not getting it: understanding (Prov 4),
which results in thy head crowned with "grace glory".

Tim, the last trump is played in every Pauline epistle

The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.

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Dear, Dear Mr. Miles,
You are right. It is not Law vs. Grace. Law is grace, and grace is law. You keeping hanging on to what you think law is. The priests have won. I do not speak of the made up law from priests. I speak of God's true law. Again please reply to this question I ask so plainly. Jesus said "If you love me, keep my commandments". Jesus commandments is the law. If you can't anwser this question clearly and be plain and to the point, then you should say nothing. It's just that simple. It may make you mad, but it is that simple. You either believe Jesus or you believe another gospel. Jesus said to keep His commandments and His commandments are the law. You may say what you like, but it's just ignoring what Jesus so plainly said. Again, "If you love me, keep my commandments. See, there again plain and simple. No mystery, no misunderstanding it. You either do what He says or you don't. So again, I ask you plainly. Tell me how He does not say to keep His law, which is His commandments. SEE, NOT MURDERING OR STEALING FROM SOMEONE IS SHOWING THEM GRACE. NOT SLEEPING WITH THEIR WIFE AND NOT COMPLAINING YOU WANT EVERYTHING THEY HAVE IS SHOWING THEM GRACE. NOT LYING ABOUT THEM IS SHOWING THEM GRACE. TO IGNORE THESE THINGS IS NOT, I REPEAT, NOT SHOWING THEM GRACE. Not that I think you do these things, but I know people who have done some of them and they just say "the law was nailed to the cross. I'm under grace" Again, bring me the barf bag!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: If it smells stanky...............

Tim, Tim,

Grace unto you, and peace,
from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Tim, Tim, you're like a doubleminded child, unstable every which way. Law is not Grace, because Death is not Life, Sacrifice is not Mercy, and Division is not Peace. Not to mention <--BC is not AD-->; And fear hath torment is not perfect Love(God).

Law and Grace are "contrary" spiritual things you're mixing rather than "comparing"; And it's making you an oxy-MORON: one proselyte: more the CHILD of hell.

When Paul asked thrice to law(kill) John, the thorn in his flesh who subverted churches with law that Paul established in grace; Paul was told: "my grace is sufficient for thee"(no law required). Selah.

http://www.godshew.org/RevelatorySermons14.htm

Tim, law loves (Mt 22:36-40) always fail, and because law is imperfect, faulty, fault-finding, even of itself, changing from unjust judge to witness against itself; But perfect love void of fear: charity(pure grace) never faileth, not ever. And perfect love speaks of perfect God, the God of all grace (no law at all), the God of all comfort (no discomfort at all), that God is light (no darkness at all). So we're talking understanding, and no misunderstanding at all. And that my friend is grace glory: Prov 4; Not law glory. The two glories are compared in 2Cor3, noting when grace glory comes, then law glory fades to nothing at all in comparison, as when the sun of righteousness comes, the moon and stars fade to nothing at noon, they vanish. Selah.

Tim, you're not seeing Jesus was made under the law: Gal 4, and Christ is the end of the law: Rom 10:4, and God did not send his Son till the expiry time for law expired: Gal 4, and God did not send his Son to condemn(law) the world: John 3:17, and eternal life of eternal salvation is "through Jesus-->Christ, as if through Law-->Grace, as if through the valley of the shadow of death to light having no shadow. Selah.

Law Law: I'll forget you & FORSAKE you: Jer23:39
Grace: I'll never leave you nor forsake you: Heb13:5

David & Jesus: why hast thou FORSAKEN me: Ps22 & Mt27
Christ: I am the true vine, my Father husbandman.

Ye are not under the law (not under Jesus), but under grace (under Christ), if led of the Spirit(God's Grace & Truth). Hell-o!

Indeed Tim, those doing law things and saying they are grace us, are adult-erous; claiming to be espoused to His Grace and found whoring with Law. Yet these are adults. Ye are like the CHILD of hell who would judge them, but not be judged yourself. Tim, whatever judgement ye hand out, ye will be judged with the same measure. If law, then law. If grace, then grace. Ye cannot have both, one for them and one for you. This is called hypocrisy and partiality, two things NOT in pure wisdom from above: James 3:17.

The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.

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Yes Mister Miles,
I am a son of hell. Hell is this earth right now controlled by people who refuse to listen to what Jesus plainly said. Yes Mister Miles, I am born a son of hell. Only listening to Jesus can make you a son of heaven. I choose to listen to Jesus. BTW, I do judge myself, and very harshly. If you judge yourself fairly, you will pass from judgement into life. Try listening to the shepard named Yeshua. If you hear His voice and obey, you will pass into life everlasting. But why obey, there is now law or commandments, right??????????? Now just how utterly stupid does that sound?

Re: If it smells stanky...............

Tim,

Grace unto you, and peace,
from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Firstly pure wisdom from above:
Grace unto you from God our Father,
is also firstly peace-able: James 3;17.

You are not at peace, because you
add law worketh wrath to grace is sufficient,
and thereby add death unto your life, not mine.
God hath not appointed us unto wrath(law): 1Th 5:9.

The only thing disturbing your peace is you.
The only thing lawing your grace is your law.
Your own law: legalism has you bound, not me.
I've done my home work. I'm free of believe lies.

The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.

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Again Mr. Miles for the 10th time, legalism is from the evil lying priest as Jeremiah said. That's getting old and worn out. Come up with something new.

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Tim,

Of Old/New, what you want is the new and dead way, not the new and living way. For after sorting out old and new, there's still two new things to sort out. For it's not only allegory, but a triple "mystery" to solve, as noted in Colossians 2:2:
- the mystery of God, "AND"
- [the mystery] of the Father, "AND"
- [the mystery] of Christ

You haven't even got the first "mystery" sorted out;
Nor realized it's all "allegory" in both "covenants".

NO Tim, I don't think God inspired the whole Bible;
For as I've shared with you it's got contradictions,
and if God inspired it all, then He'd be schizoid.
It's notably not plural and contrary scriptures,
but singular "scripture" that's "inspired of God".
You can look it up for yourself in 2Timothy 3:16.

Tim, law and bloodshed thereof ALMOST purges all things, but not all things. Grace purges all law.

Tim, you may believe whatever you want to,
but take heed believing law may kill you.

I'll stick with knowing makes you free of believing.

The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.

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Again, bloodshed forgives nothing. Animal sacrifice forgives nothing, just condems. That's not God's law. Good grief man, how many time do I have to say it.

Re: If it smells stanky...............

Tim,

Ye wanna argue for the sake of division,
which is what law vs law is always about: divisions.
On the contrary grace is about unity of Spirit(God).

But Tim, ye have no viable argument to offer;
nor will ye ever convince me to fall for yer law.
Defense is only req'd when offensive law given place;
And I have learned to give law no place whatsoever.
I've also put such to the test, and it does work.
For 1John4:1 doesn't say therorize, but try spirits.
Been there, did that, and found law can't be trusted.

But I'm glad ye came by to show how faulty law is.

I can only guess that ye suppose law is grace,
which is as to suppose extinction is salvation.

Have a happy extinction. I'll stick with salvation.

The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.

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You're funny. Thanks. I did not know quoting direct words of Jesus to show lies is a bad thing? I'll think about that more.........Nope, it's not.

Re: If it smells stanky...............

Grace

Law vs Grace

Grace

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Amen Mr. Miles, this post is done.

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Indeed, let it end as written:
The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.