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Re: Virginia Tech Shootings

You are an insane man. I guess it would not have happeded if we did not have law? What a loser you are. Do you really know just how stupid you sound?

Re: Virginia Tech Shootings

Dear Get Real,

Grace(not law) unto you, and peace(not division),
from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

My post wasn't intended to off end, but rather to focus you all on the end that is already written.

If it's law ye desire(lust), ye may have it, and all the vengeance, wrath, and death that comes with law:

If any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
If any bring another gospel, let him be accursed.
It won't change "the end" that is already written.

None for me thanks, law worketh wrath is destructive.

The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.

Re: Virginia Tech Shootings

To all hockies,

Notice how, at the first memorial service, people trying and failing to make sense of the senseless say they wish they could awake from what seems like a night mare; which is simply alternate non-reality 2:

Alternate Non-Reality 1: OT Law: begin: fear(torment)
Alternate Non-Reality 2: NT Law: begin: sorrows(grief)
Reality: NT Grace: No law = No sin and death nor grief

More Excellent: neither broadmindead nor narrowmindead

The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.

Re: Virginia Tech Shootings

Pst: "another law" in Romans 7 makes you feel "wretched". I think that adequately describes how parents of the victims(sacrifices to law) feel.

Hockies just don't get it: "understanding" = "grace glory" (Solomon: Prov 4). They're hell bent on being faithful unto death(law: the ministration of death: 2Corinthians 3:7). The biggest hockie of all is POTUS.

Hockies: wake up and smell the odor:
Law and Odor: Pew: It's the smell of Death.
When the shew ends as written, it never happened.
(No law = No sin and death, nor grief: None perish)

The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.

Re: Virginia Tech Shootings

A Statement from the International Action Center:
Headline: Why Virginia Tech shootings happened:

Yet another rampage has occurred at a school, this time leaving 33 people dead at Virginia Tech—the worst such incident ever at a U.S. college campus.

The news media seem stunned and surprised, yet their coverage sounds so similar to the stories about Columbine eight years ago. They dwell on the personality of the young man the police say did the shooting, before killing himself. They talk about him being a “loner,” depressed, perhaps angry at women.

But aren’t there lonely and depressed people all over the world? Many countries have high suicide rates. Why is it that here some become mass murderers?

The U.S. is the world leader in seemingly random acts of violence by individuals. Why?

President George W. Bush rushed to Virginia to speak at a large convocation the day after the killings and tried to set the tone for what could be said about them. “It’s impossible to make sense of such violence and suffering,” he said.

Don’t ask why, don’t try to understand. It makes no sense. “Have faith” instead, was Bush’s message.

But there ARE reasons these things happen here, and they are pretty clear to the rest of the world. It’s just in the United States that no one is supposed to talk about the reasons.

What distinguishes this country from the rest of the world? It is neither the most affluent nor the poorest. It is neither the most secular nor the most religious. It is not the most culturally homogeneous nor is it the most diverse.

But in one area, it stands virtually alone. It has the biggest arsenal of high-tech weaponry in the world, way surpassing every other country. It has military bases spread all over; most countries have no troops outside their borders.

It is conducting two hot wars at the moment, in Iraq and Afghanistan, and has sent hundreds of thousands of troops abroad over the last few years. Every day, the public here is supposed to identify with soldiers who burst into homes in Baghdad, round up the people and take them away for “interrogation”—which everyone knows now can mean torture and indefinite detainment.

It also sends heavily armed “special ops” on secret missions to countless other countries, like the ones who just facilitated the invasion and bombing of Somalia, or the ones who have been trying to stir up opposition in Iran. This is documented in the news media.

The immense brutality of these colonial wars, as well as earlier ones, is praised from the White House on down as the best, the ONLY way to achieve what the political leaders and their influential, rich backers decide is necessary to protect their world empire. Do lots of people get killed? “Stuff happens,” said former war secretary Donald Rumsfeld. “Collateral damage,” says the Pentagon.

At home, the U.S. has the highest rate of incarceration in the world. Over 2 million people are locked up in the prison system each year, most of them people of color. When commercial armed security guards are also taken into consideration, the U.S. has millions of employees who use guns and other coercive paraphernalia in their jobs.

In the final analysis, the military and the police exist to perpetuate and protect this present unjust system of capitalist inequality, where a few can claim personal ownership over a vast economy built by the sweat and blood of hundreds of millions of workers.

And the more divided, the more polarized the society becomes, the higher the level of coercion and violence. Assault weapons are now everywhere in this society, as are Tasers, handcuffs, clubs and tear gas. They most often start out in the hands of the police, the military and other agents of the state, and can then turn up anywhere.

Violence is a big money maker in the mass culture. Television, films, pulp novels, Internet sites, video games—all dwell on “sociopaths” while glorifying the state’s use of violence, often supplemented by a lone vigilante. By the time children reach their teens, they have already seen thousands of murders and killings on television. And these days even more suspense is added in countless programs that involve stalking and terror against women—and increasingly children.

As the Duke rape case and so many “escort service” ads show, women of color are particularly subject to exploitation and have little recourse to any justice. And as the murders along the border show, immigrants of color are fair game for racist killers.

The social soil of capitalism can alienate and enrage an unstable and miserable person who should be getting help but can’t find it. If, as reports are saying, the young man accused of these killings was on anti-depressant medication, it is all the more evidence that, at a time when hospitals are closing and health care is unavailable for tens of millions, treating mental health problems requires more from society than just prescribing dubious chemicals.

Many liberal commentators are taking this occasion to renew the demand for tougher gun laws. Yes, assault weapons are horrible, but so are bunker buster bombs, helicopters that fire thousands of rounds a minute, and the ultimate—nuclear weapons. Disarming the people is not the answer, especially when the government is armed to the teeth and uses brutality and coercion daily.

The best antidote to these tragedies is to build a movement for profound social change, a movement directed at solving the great problems depressing so much of humanity today, whether they be wars or global climate change or the loneliness of the dog-eat-dog society.
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My Comment on the Article Posted Above:
Problem: "Law worketh wrath": Destructive
Solution: "Grace is sufficient": Constructive

The evidence does not lie nor take sides.
The evidence simply reveals what's evident.
It's evident "this gospel" = sorrows(grief).
That is why "that gospel" also goes global.
http://www.godshew.org/CurrentEvents.htm

Holy Bible, on what's "evident" from "evidence":
No man is justified by law in God's sight: evident.
(Paul The Apostle to "foolish bewitched churches")
http://www.godshew.org/Revelations7.htm#23

The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.

Re: Virginia Tech Shootings

Dear University Students,

University is about higher learning, "higher" than "high".
You should be focused on the higher God of two Gods:
Higher God: I will never leave thee nor forsake thee: Grace.
God on high: I will forsake you, the city, your fathers: Law.

It's 2007AD->only goes one way, unto "the end" written.
It's the "third day" is the "seventh day" is the "last day".
On the seventh day God ended blessed and sanctified.
Not to mention there's no evening & morning mentioned.

Biblically there are two options given for the last day:
(i) The Day of the LORD -or- (ii) The Day of God
Since it's Allegory, the meaning is: Law or Grace.
Law: the ministration of death:2Cor3:7; so extinction
Grace: the ministration of righteousness; so salvation

See Amos 5:18 in OT about "the day of the LORD".
It says the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.
See Genesis 1:3 concerning what God said about it.

See 2Peter 3:12 in NT about "the day of God".
It says we should be looking for and hasting unto it.
See also Hebrews 12:1 which calls it an end "run".
It also speaks of weight loss to make it alive unto God.
The "weight" to lose in order to do the end run is "law".

Problem: Law worketh wrath is destructive.
Solution: Grace is sufficient is constructive.

The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.

Re: Virginia Tech Shootings: Bad gets Worse

OK, this is a clear case of Bad gets "Worse".
Sacrifices(victims) with dead end get rewarded.
Rather, parents of victims should be locked up.
By give place to d-evil(law) their children died.
Such latter state of man biblically called "worse".
Mt 23 Worse: one proselyte: more the child of hell.
Revelation Worse: seven other spirits more wicked.

SLAIN VIRGINIA TECH STUDENTS TO BE AWARDED DEGREES
All of the students killed in the Virginia Tech shootings will receive posthumous degrees, university officials said Thursday. FULL STORY:
http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2007/04/19/investigation-virginiatech.html

The GRACE of our Lord JC with you all. Amen.

Re: Barna on the Virginia Tech Shootings

Barna Surveys, on the VT shootings:

The current debate about the implications of the Virginia Tech tragedy is missing the point. All the public discussion about gun control, campus security, counseling standards, campus communications, drug abuse and mental health funding avoids the main issue: the way that parents raise their children. The Virginia shooting spree is a dramatic wake-up call to parents.

Re: Virginia Tech Shootings Video

Here is the video link, for those who care to watch it. Brave-o to CBC for not airing it because it would glorify the shooter and what he represents: Law Law.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1pj9i3hgRg