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There appear to be five known survivors from this batch of 48 Bedford:

1859 restored/being restored to Ulsterbus livery
1864 later Bus Eireann BA5
1868 later Bus Eireann BA6, owned by me.
1876 later Bus Eireann BA12,owned by Eamon Spruhan
1878 former towcar being restored to Ulsterbus livery.

Given that two of the above and now probably three are being restored as Ulsterbuses I will keep 1868 in Bus Eireann livery as BA6. BA5 and BA6 initially operated from Ballina depot before transferring to Waterford for their final years. BA12 was the last of the type in service operating in the Carlow area.

Re: BA Class Survivors

I am most grateful to Gordon for his wonderful photo of 1863. I must say that she looked handsome in Ulsterbus livery. She looks pretty ghastly in Bus Eireann livery in my view.

So I think she should go back to Ulsterbus livery and thats what we plan to do right now.

I am also very grateful to Simon for his information and delighted she will keep BA 6 in Bus Eireann livery. A quick question for him. Does he have all the seats as I have a recollection when collecting BA5 of taking some seats from BA 6 as we were told she was being scrapped! We might be able to help if he is short.

Finally we are going to also have LA 37 in Ulsterbus livery so we are getting a collection of Ulsterbus vehicles.

If Ricky Shannon reads this perhaps he would like to give us a progress report on Leopard 1571.

Michael Grimes


photos of 1571s progress are avliable on my site,

Its a very good running bus, and sounds very good,


Re: 1864

Do any of the the Ulsterbus 17xx Bedfords that went to Bus Eireann survive?.

Re: Re: 1864 and 17XX Bedfords

While I am not the total expert I don't think any 17XX Bedfords did go to Bus Eireann but perhaps someone else would either correct me or agree.

For that matter what is the difference between a 17XX and a 18XX?

Michael Grimes

1868 and 17XX Bedfords

The following BA class Bedford were from the 17xx series:

BA1 1727
BA2 1739
BA3 1745
BA4 1746
BA20 1744
BA21 1800

BA1,20, 21 were late survivors but none survive. They had the older style front end which was their main physical difference.

BA6 was indeed totally devoid of all seat cushions when I collected it but over the last couple of years I have put together a full set that I came across from various sources. But thanks for the offer anyway Michael.

Re: 1868 and 17XX Bedfords

Thanks for the information Simon. It's just a pity none survive.